Legendes probleme !!!!

slt, je voulais savoir combien de legendes etaient autorisés sur la table !!! Pour chaque joueur !

on peut en mettre autant qu'on veut.
mais si il y a deux legendes du meme nom en jeu, la deuxieme arrivee (ou la deuxieme a etre devenue legende) va au cimetiere.

les légendes sont uniques en jeu lorsqu'elles ont exactement le même nom.

Mais rien n'empêche d'avoir en jeu rorix avec bladewing the risen, ou alors balthor et balthor le souillé, ou encore phage/jeska.

Le fait qu'elles représentent le même personnage dans l'histoire n'a pas d'importance en terme du jeu si la carte est différente.

ok , merci bcp
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Ares

1) Que ce passe t'il ci tu change le type de deux créature du meme nom en légende(par ex, deux pelleteurs gob?
1a)avec 2 sorts différents
1b)avec un seul sort

2) Et que ce passe t'il ci tu change le type d'un jeton en légende

3) meme question pour une mue

4) Et ci tu change le type d'une légende (visarra en gob par ex) et que tu pose une 2eme visarra?

5) Quelle est la couleur du cheval blanc d'henry IV ?

je rappelle les regles sur les legendes:

K.17.1 - A permanent is legendary if its type includes "Legendary" or its creature type includes Legend. [CompRules 1999/04/23]
K.17.2 - Only one legendary permanent of a given name can be in play at a time. If a legendary permanent enters play (or a permanent becomes legendary) when another legendary permanent of that name is already in play, the one that just entered play or that just became legendary is put into its owner's graveyard. If more than one of the same name enters play or become legendary at the same time, then all of them are put into their owner's graveyards. This is done as a state-based effect (see Rule T.11). [CompRules 1999/04/23] [D'Angelo 2001/06/22]
K.17.3 - Legendary creatures are of creature type Legend, so have the card type entry of "Creature - Legend". Other legendary permanents are listed as "Legendary Artifact", "Legendary Enchantment", and "Legendary Land". [CompRules 1999/04/23]
K.17.4 - If a creature Legend is changed to a non-creature permanent type, it is still a legendary permanent. This is true for any type changes to legendary permanents. They do not lose their legendary status. [CompRules 1999/11/01] Similarly, if a Legendary non-creature is changed into a creature, it gains creature type Legend. [CompRules 1999/11/01]
K.17.5 - Any change to a permanent which changes the card's name can remove Legendary status. [bethmo 1999/04/10]
K.17.6 - Removing the creature type "legend" from a creature makes it no longer a legend. [bethmo 1999/09/22]
K.17.Ruling.1 - Because they are put into the graveyard as a state-based effect, it is not possible to use any abilities of the permanent before it is gone. This includes mana abilities. [D'Angelo 1999/05/01]
K.17.Ruling.2 - A spell or ability that affects "all legends" is referring to "all creatures of type Legend". It is not referring to cards from the Legends expansion and it is not referring to non-creature Legendary permanents. [D'Angelo 2001/06/15]
K.17.Ruling.3 - If one legend is phasing out while another is phasing in, they will not see one another. [bethmo 1996/09/19] See Rule G.27.6.
K.17.Ruling.4 - If a legend is changed so that it is not a legend for a while, then it changes back, it is considered the new one in play. [D'Angelo 1998/02/03]
K.17.Ruling.5 - Copy cards, such as Clone, do copy the legendary nature of a card. The copy will be the new legend entering play and will be put into the graveyard. [Duelist Magazine #2, Page 7, 1994/08/01]
K.17.Ruling.6 - The game always knows exactly which legend entered play first or became legendary first (or that they entered play or became legendary at the same time), even if they both enter during the same "event" of a spell or ability. [WotC Rules Team 1997/10/06]
K.17.Ruling.7 - The newer permanent is put into the graveyard (as per Rule K.17.1) even if the two legends with the same name are somehow different card types. [WotC Rules Team 1999/03/18]
K.17.Ruling.8 - A permanent with the same name as a legendary permanent, but which is not also legendary will not cause the Legend rules to be applied. [WotC Rules Team 2000/04/04]
Note - Two or more legendary permanents with different names can be in play at the same time. [D'Angelo 1998/02/03]
Note - A card is not a Legend just because a card has a gold border. It has to say "Creature - Legend" or "Legendary " on its card type. Older cards said "Summon Legend". [D'Angelo 1999/05/01]
Note - All "Creature - Legend" and "Legendary Land" cards were on the DCI restricted list (only 1 per deck) for all tournaments from 1994/08/01 until 1995/11/01.


1/ si tu change deux pelleteur gobelins en legendes.
a/ l'un apres l'autre : c le dernier devenu legende qui meurt.
b/ les deux en meme temps : les deux meurent

2/ si il n'y a pas d'autre jeton legendaire du meme nom en jeu , il reste.
3/la je n'en suis pas sur , mais vu que les mue n'ont pas de nom, elles peuvent toutes rester en jeu.
4/les deux visara restent en jeu. Des que la visara gobeline redeviendra legende, elle sera detruite.
5/ la , je crois qu'il faut demander a arcarum..

oops: il ne faut pas dire mue, mais creature face cachee... mea culpa.