Questions sur les effets déclenchés

502.24. Folie

502.24a La folie est un mot-clef qui représente deux capacités. La première est une capacité statique qui fonctionne tant que la carte avec la folie est dans la main d'un joueur. La seconde est une capacité déclenchée qui fonctionne quand la première capacité est utilisée. "Folie [coût]" signifie "Si un joueur devait se défausser de cette carte, il s'en défausse, mais peut la retirer de la partie au lieu de la mettre dans son cimetière." et "Lorsque cette carte est retirée de la partie d'une telle manière, jusqu'à la prochaine fois où ce joueur passe la priorité, il peut, à tout moment où il pourrait jouer un éphémère, jouer cette carte en payant [coût] plutôt que de payer son coût de mana. Quand ce joueur passe la priorité, mettez cette carte dans son cimetière."

502.24b Jouer un sort en utilisant la folie se fait suivant les règles sur les coûts de substitution, paragraphes 409.1b et 409.1f-h.

J'aimerai savoir si lorsque l'on me contre un sort d'esprit ou d'arcane et que je possède en jeux un voleur d'espoir, mon adversaire perd un point de vie et moi j'en gagne un ?

409.1. Playing a spell or activated ability follows the steps listed below, in order. If, at any point during the playing of a spell or ability, a player is unable to comply with any of the steps listed below, the spell was played illegally; the game returns to the moment before that spell or ability was played (see rule 422, “Handling Illegal Actions”). Announcements and payments can’t be altered after they’ve been made.

409.1a The player announces that he or she is playing the spell or activated ability. It moves from the zone it’s in to the stack and remains there until it’s countered or resolves. In the case of spells, the physical card goes onto the stack. In the case of activated abilities, the ability goes onto the stack without any card associated with it. Each spell has all the characteristics of the card associated with it. Each activated ability on the stack has the text of the ability that created it, and no other characteristics. The controller of a spell is the player who played the spell. The controller of an activated ability is the player who played the ability.

409.1b If the spell or ability is modal (uses the phrase “Choose one —” or “[specified player] chooses one —”), the player announces the mode choice. If the player wishes to splice any cards onto the spell, he or she reveals those cards in his or her hand. If the spell or ability has a variable mana cost (indicated by {X}) or some other variable cost, the player announces the value of that variable at this time. If the spell or ability has alternative, additional, or other special costs (such as buyback, kicker, or convoke costs), the player announces his or her intentions to pay any or all of those costs (see rule 409.1f). You can’t apply two alternative methods of playing or two alternative costs to a single spell or ability. Previously made choices (such as choosing to play a spell with flashback from his or her graveyard or choosing to play a creature with morph face down) may restrict the player’s options when making these choices.

409.1c If the spell or ability requires any targets, the player first announces how many targets he or she will choose (if the spell or ability has a variable number of targets), then announces the targets themselves. A player can’t play a spell or ability unless he or she chooses the required number of legal targets. The same target can’t be chosen multiple times for any one instance of the word “target” on the spell or ability. If the spell or ability uses the word “target” in multiple places, the same object, player, or zone can be chosen once for each instance of the word “target” (as long as it fits the targeting criteria).
Example: If an ability reads “Tap two target creatures,” then the same target can’t be chosen twice; the ability requires two different legal targets. An ability that reads “Destroy target artifact and target land,” however, can target the same artifact land twice because it uses the word “target” in multiple places.

409.1d If the spell or ability targets one or more targets only if an alternative, additional, or special cost (such as a buyback or kicker cost) is paid for it, or if a particular mode is chosen for it, its controller chooses those targets only if he or she announced the intention to pay that cost or chose that mode. Otherwise, the spell or ability is played as though it did not have those targets.

409.1e If the spell or ability affects several targets in different ways, the player announces how it will affect each target. If the spell or ability requires the player to divide or distribute an effect (such as damage or counters) among one or more targets, or any number of untargeted objects or players, the player announces the division. Each of these targets, objects, or players must receive at least one of whatever is being divided.

409.1f The player determines the total cost of the spell or ability. Usually this is just the mana cost (for spells) or activation cost (for abilities). Some cards list additional or alternative costs in their text, and some effects may increase or reduce the cost to pay. Costs may include paying mana, tapping permanents, sacrificing permanents, discarding cards, and so on. The total cost is the mana cost, activation cost, or alternative cost, plus all cost increases and minus all cost reductions. Once the total cost is determined, it becomes “locked in.” If effects would change the total cost after this time, they have no effect.

409.1g If the total cost includes a mana payment, the player then has a chance to play mana abilities (see rule 411, “Playing Mana Abilities”). Mana abilities must be played before costs are paid.

409.1h The player pays the total cost in any order. Partial payments are not allowed.
Example: You play Death Bomb, which costs {3}{B} and has an additional cost of sacrificing a creature. You sacrifice Thunderscape Familiar, whose effect makes your black spells cost {1} less to play. Because a spell’s total cost is “locked in” before payments are actually made, you pay {2}{B}, not {3}{B}, even though you’re sacrificing the Familiar.

409.1i Once the steps described in 409.1a–409.1h are completed, the spell or ability becomes played. Any abilities that trigger on a spell or ability being played or put onto the stack trigger at this time. The spell or ability’s controller gets priority.

"comprehensive rules"

408.1e Quand un sort est joué, il va sur le dessus de la pile. Quand une capacité activée est jouée, elle va sur le dessus de la pile.

J'aimerai savoir quand le contresort intervient?

Le 25/01/2006, BluBlub avait écrit ...

Une dernière précision, existe -t-il un AUTRE moyen d'empêcher quelqu'un de "jouer" un sort?

Le 25/01/2006, BluBlub avait écrit ...

Et merci a smc, Le_Brujah , arcarum , et lyon4 le travail que vous faitent aide vraiment les gens, il permet non seulement de jouer de meilleurs parties, mais aussi d'avoir une meilleur compréhension des méchanismes du jeux. Un texte de règles écrit (bien que j'aille souvent le consulter) n'explique pas aussi bien qu'une personne qui comprend un problème précis.

Un coup sec derrière la nuque devrait suffir ...