Controle de permanents adverse et Mulitjoueur

Ceci pose problèmle quand on joue à plusieurs (plus que 2, car oui, 2 c'est également plusieurs )

Un joueur A prend le contrôle d'un permanent d'un autre joueur B. Lorsque le joueur A décède, où va le permanent dont il avait gagné le contrôle ? Dans le cimetierre de B, hors jeu ? Dans la poche d'ObiWan Kenobi ?

600.4. Unlike two-player games, multiplayer games can continue after one or more players have left the game.
600.4a. When a player leaves the game, all objects (see rule 200.8) owned by that player leave the game, all spells and abilities controlled by that player on the stack cease to exist, and any change-of-control effects which give that player control of any objects end. Then, if there are any objects still controlled by that player, those objects leave the game. This is not a state-based effect. It happens as soon as the player leaves the game. A player leaving the game doesn't affect combat damage on the stack.
Example: Alex plays Control Magic, an Aura that reads, “You control enchanted creature,” on Bianca’s Wall of Wood. If Alex leaves the game, so does Control Magic,and Wall of Wood reverts to Bianca’s control. If, instead, Bianca leaves the game, so does Wall of Wood, and Control Magic is put into Alex’s graveyard.
Example: Alex plays Threaten, which reads, in part, “Untap target creature and gain control of it until end of turn,” targeting Bianca’s Wall of Wood. If Alex leaves the game, Threaten’s change-of-control effect ends and Wall of Wood reverts to Bianca's control.
Example: Alex plays Bribery, which reads, “Search target opponent’s library for a creature card and put that card into play under your control. Then that player shuffles his or her library,” targeting Bianca. Alex puts Wall of Wood into play from Bianca's library. If Alex leaves the game, Wall of Wood leaves the game. If, instead, Bianca leaves the game, Wall of Wood still leaves the game.
Example: Alex controls Genesis Chamber, which reads, “Whenever a nontoken creature comes into play, if Genesis Chamber is untapped, that creature’s controller puts a 1/1Myr artifact creature token into play.” If Alex leaves the game, all Myr tokens created by Genesis Chamber while it was under Alex’s control leave the game as well because
Alex owns the tokens.
600.4b. If an object would change to the control of a player who has left the game, that object's control remains unchanged. If a token would be put into play under the control of a player who has left the game, no token is created.
600.4c If an object owned by a player who has left the game would be put into any zone, it leaves the game instead. (This includes abilities that would be put onto the stack.)
Example: Astral Slide is an enchantment that reads, “Whenever a player cycles a card,you may remove target creature from the game. If you do, return that creature to play under its owner’s control at end of turn.” During Alex’s turn, Bianca uses Astral Slide’s ability to remove Alex’s Hypnotic Specter from the game. Before the end of that turn, Bianca leaves the game. At end of turn, the delayed triggered ability generated by Astral Slide that would return Hypnotic Specter to play triggers, but it leaves the game rather than being put on the stack. Hypnotic Specter never returns to play.
600.4d If an object requires a player who has left the game to make a choice, the controller of the object chooses another player to make that choice. If the original choice was to be made by an opponent of the controller of the object, that player chooses another opponent if possible.

Quand un joueur quitte le jeu, tout ce qu'il possede quitte le jeu

oui, mais ce n'etait pas la question.

les permanents dont le joueur quittant la partie a pris le controle (mais ne possédait pas) retournent sous le controle de leurs anciens controleurs. (car les effets de changement de controle sont annulés.)

600.4a Lorsqu'un joueur quitte la partie, tous les objets (voir règle 200.8) dont ce joueur est propriétaire quittent la partie, tous les sorts et les capacités contrôlées par ce joueur sur la pile cessent d'exister et les effets de changement de contrôle qui donnaient à ce joueur le contrôle de quelque objet que ce soit cessent. Puis, s'il reste des objets contrôlés par le joueur qui quitte la partie, ces objets quittent la partie. Ceci n'est pas un effet basé sur un état et se produit immédiatement, dès que le joueur quitte la partie. Le fait qu'un joueur quitte la partie n'a pas d'effet sur l'assignation des blessures de combat sur la pile.

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[ Edité par lyon4 Le 15 sep 2005 ]

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