Dégager un permanent dégagé

J'ai toujours supposé qu'on pouvait engagé un permanent déjà engagé ou dégagé un permanent dégagé... Mais soudain le doute m'assaille ! En fait je comptais faire un deck "brume de stagnation" et je me demandais, si on avait plus de cartes dans le cimetiere que de permanents, si on devait dégager ceux de l'adversaire ? Je ne pense pas, mais bon, je peux me tromper. Si juste pour la forme que je demande, j'ai vu que des decks "brume de stagnation" existent alors c'est pas marrant, ca fait copieur

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Mist of Stagnation
{3}{U}{U}
Enchantment
Permanents don't untap during their controllers' untap steps.
At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player untaps a permanent for each card in his or her graveyard.

* When the triggered ability resolves, the player whose turn it is counts the number of cards in his or her graveyard. Then that player chooses that many permanents and untaps them.

* You may untap an untapped permanent with this ability. If you do, nothing happens to that permanent.

* You can untap any permanents, not just ones that you control. And you must untap as many permanents as you can. So, if the cards in your graveyard outnumber the permanents you control, you must untap some of your opponent's permanents. You choose which ones to untap.

pour sa question c'estsurtout ça qu'il faut mettre en gras :

* You can untap any permanents, not just ones that you control. And you must untap as many permanents as you can. So, if the cards in your graveyard outnumber the permanents you control, you must untap some of your opponent's permanents. You choose which ones to untap.

* You may untap an untapped permanent with this ability. If you do, nothing happens to that permanent.

* You can untap any permanents, not just ones that you control. And you must untap as many permanents as you can. So, if the cards in your graveyard outnumber the permanents you control, you must untap some of your opponent's permanents. You choose which ones to untap.

Les deux semblent incompatibles... Si le 1er "*" est vrai, pourquoi doit on dégager les permanents de l'adversaire si on a trop de cartes dans son cimetiere ?

Désolé pour le flood, la pièce vient de tomber ! En fait, c'est logique. On déclare tous les permanents à dégager en même temps. Merci beaucoup !