copie du Vizir

Salut ! Ma question vas vous paraitre idiote mais si je copie un vizir au nombreux visages qui a déja copié une creature (par exemple une 2/3) la copie vas etre une 2/3 ou une copie du vizir donc une 0/0 ?http://www.magiccorporation.com/gathering-cartes-view-33572-vizir-aux-nombreux-visages.html

Bonjour, c'est bien d'avoir essayé de mettre un lien, mais tu t'es loupé, je te conseille d'utiliser les balises urlcarte la prochaine fois, comme ça :
vizir aux nombreux visages ([urlcarte*]vizir aux nombreux visages[/urlcarte], sans l'étoile, pense à cliquer sur le lien une fois le message posté pour vérifier qu'il est correct et à le corriger si nécessaire)

Pour répondre à ta question, ce sera une copie de la 2/3. Ça vient de la règle 706.3 sauf erreur de ma part :

Spoiler

706.3. The copy’s copiable values become the copied information, as modified by the copy’s status (see rule 110.6). Objects that copy the object will use the new copiable values.

Example: Vesuvan Doppelganger reads, “You may have Vesuvan Doppelganger enter the battlefield as a copy of any creature on the battlefield except it doesn’t copy that creature’s color and it gains ‘At the beginning of your upkeep, you may have this creature become a copy of target creature except it doesn’t copy that creature’s color. If you do, this creature gains this ability.’” A Vesuvan Doppelganger enters the battlefield as a copy of Runeclaw Bear (a 2/2 green Bear creature with no abilities). Then a Clone enters the battlefield as a copy of the Doppelganger. The Clone is a 2/2 blue Bear named Runeclaw Bear that has the Doppelganger’s upkeep-triggered ability.

Example: Tomoya the Revealer (a flipped flip card) becomes a copy of Nezumi Shortfang (an unflipped flip card). Tomoya’s characteristics become the characteristics of Stabwhisker the Odious, which is the flipped version of Nezumi Shortfang.

Example: A face-down Grinning Demon (a creature with morph) becomes a copy of a face-up Branchsnap Lorian (a 4/1 green creature with trample and morph  %G). The Demon’s characteristics become the characteristics of Branchsnap Lorian. However, since the creature is face down, it remains a 2/2 colorless creature with no name, types, or abilities, and no mana cost. It can be turned face up for  %G. If it’s turned face up, it will have the characteristics of Branchsnap Lorian.

Example: A face-down Grinning Demon (a creature with morph) becomes a copy of Wandering Ones (a 1/1 blue Spirit creature that doesn’t have morph). It will be a face-down Wandering Ones. It remains a 2/2 colorless creature with no name, types, or abilities, and no mana cost. Its controller can’t turn it face up as a special action. If an effect turns it face up, it will have the characteristics of Wandering Ones.

si le vizir était embaumé, la copie sera une 2/3 blanche sans cout de mana et sera un zombie en plus des autres types de créature de la 2/3.

D'accord merci beaucoup ^^ et désolé pour le lien ^^'

Le 09/06/2017 à 19:25, Olxinos avait écrit ...
Bonjour, c'est bien d'avoir essayé de mettre un lien, mais tu t'es loupé, je te conseille d'utiliser les balises urlcarte la prochaine fois, comme ça :
vizir aux nombreux visages ([urlcarte*]vizir aux nombreux visages[/urlcarte], sans l'étoile, pense à cliquer sur le lien une fois le message posté pour vérifier qu'il est correct et à le corriger si nécessaire)

Pour répondre à ta question, ce sera une copie de la 2/3. Ça vient de la règle 706.3 sauf erreur de ma part :

Spoiler

706.3. The copy’s copiable values become the copied information, as modified by the copy’s status (see rule 110.6). Objects that copy the object will use the new copiable values.

Example: Vesuvan Doppelganger reads, “You may have Vesuvan Doppelganger enter the battlefield as a copy of any creature on the battlefield except it doesn’t copy that creature’s color and it gains ‘At the beginning of your upkeep, you may have this creature become a copy of target creature except it doesn’t copy that creature’s color. If you do, this creature gains this ability.’” A Vesuvan Doppelganger enters the battlefield as a copy of Runeclaw Bear (a 2/2 green Bear creature with no abilities). Then a Clone enters the battlefield as a copy of the Doppelganger. The Clone is a 2/2 blue Bear named Runeclaw Bear that has the Doppelganger’s upkeep-triggered ability.

Example: Tomoya the Revealer (a flipped flip card) becomes a copy of Nezumi Shortfang (an unflipped flip card). Tomoya’s characteristics become the characteristics of Stabwhisker the Odious, which is the flipped version of Nezumi Shortfang.

Example: A face-down Grinning Demon (a creature with morph) becomes a copy of a face-up Branchsnap Lorian (a 4/1 green creature with trample and morph  %G). The Demon’s characteristics become the characteristics of Branchsnap Lorian. However, since the creature is face down, it remains a 2/2 colorless creature with no name, types, or abilities, and no mana cost. It can be turned face up for  %G. If it’s turned face up, it will have the characteristics of Branchsnap Lorian.

Example: A face-down Grinning Demon (a creature with morph) becomes a copy of Wandering Ones (a 1/1 blue Spirit creature that doesn’t have morph). It will be a face-down Wandering Ones. It remains a 2/2 colorless creature with no name, types, or abilities, and no mana cost. Its controller can’t turn it face up as a special action. If an effect turns it face up, it will have the characteristics of Wandering Ones.