Par défaut un oubli est traité comme un refus de faire l'action non ?
La nouvelle politique sur les trigger ne concerne que les évènements pros et les triggers obligatoires il me semble. Grosso modo tu n'as pas obligation de faire remarquer un trigger obligatoire à un adversaire, par contre tu dois signaler tous les triggers, même transparents, que tu déclenches.
Je cherche le texte pour confirmer.
Désolé pour le pavé, cela vient de l'IPG du 1/10/2012 (Infraction Procedure Guide). J'ai surligné les deux lignes qui me semblent correspondre aux questions ici.
Game Play Error — Missed Trigger
Definition
A triggered ability triggers, but the player controlling the ability doesn’t demonstrate awareness of the trigger’s
existence and/or forgets to announce its effect. If a triggered ability has been partially or incorrectly resolved,
instead treat it as a Game Play Error — Game Rule Violation.
A trigger is considered missed once the controller of the trigger has taken an action after the point at which a trigger
should have resolved or, in the case of a trigger controlled by the non-active player, after that player has taken an
action that indicates they have actively passed priority. Players may not cause triggered abilities to be missed by
taking game actions or otherwise prematurely advancing the game. For example, if a player draws a card during his
or her draw step without allowing the controller of a triggered ability that would trigger during that turn’s upkeep to
resolve it, place that trigger on the stack at this point and issue no penalty.
Examples
A. A player controls Braids, Cabal Minion. After he has declared attackers, he realizes that he has failed to
sacrifice a permanent at the beginning of his upkeep.
B. A player realizes that she forgot to remove the final counter from a suspended spell.
C. A player forgets to pay the cumulative upkeep cost for a creature.
D. A player controls Soul Warden and forgets to gain 1 life when a creature enters the battlefield under his
opponent’s control.
Philosophy
Triggered abilities are common and invisible, so players should not be harshly penalized when forgetting about one.
Players are expected to remember their own triggers; intentionally ignoring one is considered Cheating — Fraud.
However, remembering triggers that benefit you is a skill. Therefore, players are not required to point out missed
triggers that they do not control, though they may do so if they wish.
The controller of the missed trigger only receives a Warning if the triggered ability is generally considered
detrimental for the controlling player. The current game state is not a factor in determining this. Whether a Warning
is issued or not does not affect how the trigger is handled, and Failure to Maintain Game State penalties are never
issued to players who did not control the ability.
Penalty
Warning*8
Judges should not intervene in a missed trigger situation unless they intend to issue a Warning or have reason to
suspect that the controller is intentionally missing his or her triggers.
Additional Remedy
If the trigger specifies a default action associated with a choice made by the controller of the trigger (usually "If you don't ..." or "... unless"), resolve the default action immediately without using the stack. If there are unresolved spells
or abilities that are no longer legal as a result of this action, rewind the game to remove all such spells or abilities.
Resulting triggers generated by the action still trigger and resolve as normal.
If the duration of the effect generated by the trigger has already expired, or the trigger was missed more than a turn
ago, instruct the players to continue playing.
Otherwise, the opponent may choose to have the controller play the triggered ability. If they do, insert the forgotten
ability at the appropriate place or on the bottom of the stack. No player may make choices involving objects that
were not in the zone or zones referenced by the trigger when the ability should have triggered. For example, if the
ability instructs a player to sacrifice a creature, that player can't sacrifice a creature that wasn't on the battlefield
when the ability should have triggered.
[ Dernière modification par Tripel_Ix le 13 oct 2012 à 15h12 ]
